69 thoughts on “SAC B-47 Wing Patches

    • Richard; I have found the old guest book entries, however I need to go through and weed out some of the posts and clean up duplicates etc. Hope to have it posted soon. Look for a new page to be placed on the header.

    • Jack; That may well be true, however most wings were allocated back and forth in the three numbered Air Forces. Some wings were at times in each of three Air Forces. I did not prepare this list, I only published it primiarly to show as many patches that were in use back then.

      • My Father Robert S Collins was with the 8th at Whiteman AFB and transfered to Platsburg around 61-62 to 65.

      • Jack and Jim, Jack is right, when the 380th was activated in 57 it was in 8th Air Force. This I know because I was the Co-pilot on the first Combat Ready Crew in the 380th, having transfered in from the 303rd in Tucson.
        Jim are you any kin to Bert Diamond?

      • Jim, I concur with Frank. The 380th was in the 8th Air Force while I was in the 530th BS from late ’56 through mid ’59.

        Wes Bender

      • Hi Wes; Yes, as I stated before almost all of the SAC wings were in different numbered Air Forces at different times due to mission alignment directed by SAC. I was in the 40th BW and we were in all three Numbered Air forces.
        Looking forward to seeing you in Tucson in a couple weeks.

    • J D, The 40th Bomb Wing came to Forbes in June 1960. So you must have been in the 40th BW from Jun 60 to Nov 62. The 90th SRW Wing members that remained at Forbes were absorbed into the 40th BW at that time.

      • I was assigned to Forbes AFB June 16 1960 and was assigned to the 90th SRW. It was a couple of years later that the 40th came over from Schiling.

      • David; I replied to you privately and sent you a copy of my orders showing I was stationed at Forbes in 1960 in the 40th OMS Sqdn. Therefor the 40th BW did in fact move to Forbes AFB in June 1960 and absorbed some of the 90th SRW into the 40th.

      • I was assigned to the 55th SRW at Forbes from 1962 till I moved with 55th moved to Offutt. I came from Little AFB. I can’t recall what year it was but I was there when the Tornado hit Topeka, base personnel were all involved in cleanup.

  1. I was in the 44 BW at Lake Charles, La. from 1956 to 1959 Lake Charles, La. was the home to the 44BW and the 68 BW at same time in the early 50’s

    • I was stationed at Chennault AFB, Lake Charles, La from 1953 until 1963. I was in the 44th Bomb Wing until it closed and then transferred to the 68th Bomb Wing until the base closed in 1963. I was then transferred to air weather on WB-47s. I was then in the 57th weather squadron until 1966.I was a crew chief at Chennault and at Hickam AFB, Hi.
      Jack

  2. Richard, I was assigned to the 806th Medical Group from 1958-1961 at Chennault. I reported for duty 11/16/58, 10 days prior to the B-47 burning on the flight line. So, we both were there for the resultant panic and confusion. Heck I was 18, just out of basic and didn’t have a clue!

    • I donot remember the a/c burning maybe it was the beer. First time allowed at 18. They had great bars in lake Charles which I do remember

  3. Enjoyed the comments. Would like to hear from someone who knows the common or technical term for the 20mm gun/cartridge of the b47. I flew the b-47 from 63-64-65,376th BW Lockbourne and would like to collect several rounds in links. I loved the way that plane flew. Saw some unbelievable St.Elmo’s fire. Would like to find Neal Ferrel and Billy Cobble. How might one do this ? Thanks, Scott

    • I was a navigator on B-47s at Lockbourne from 62 untill the last one left in 65 when I headed out for Alaska to herd C130D-6s. We had to be there at the same time. I was in the 376th though. Sure wish the Commemorative Air Force would try to get one of these back in the air. I ‘d like to fly in it again. I’m looking for Stu Lustfield and John R Smith my former crew.

      • Did you by any chance know Lt Col Harvey Layman? He was a Nav on B47’s at Lockbourne in your time. I was assigned to the 376th A&E Nav shop from 63-65.

      • Dear Gary, I don’t recognize those names. How about Col. Addington, or Cap. Bill Turner. Bill was my navigator. He was superb, I shot many stars for that man. His three star shot triangles were half the size of a rice grain. I’m sure your’s were as good or better. I appreciated navigators more than they might have thought, and still do, they did all the hard work—I should have said something, but was young and unaware, so for you and all navigators—THANKS— scott

      • thanks Bob, i got in touch with Neil
        ferrel, had a good talk on the phone,and a very nice letter and

        christmas card from him. PS ,,,i just now noticed the 1300 time on my 11 december comment, it was supposed to be 2300. i hope you are doing ok… scott

  4. Bob, thanks for the response about Neal Ferrell, my cell is 406 868 7490, i’m up at 6;00 and sometimes read til 1300. also interested in finding Bill Turner my navigator. thanks, scott

  5. Dear Jim Diamond.

    I am trying to find the technicle name of the 20mm guns in the tail of the b47. No one seems to know. My crew chief saved a couple for me back in 1964 when I landed. One of them had the head stamp m21a1, others were different. I would like a sting of 4 or 5 in links,,ha, ha. i have a small cartridge collection going back to the 1800’s. Thanks, Scott

      • Thanks for the response, i have been on the road for awhile, i managed to keep a couple of rounds from the feeder winder after landing because of a kind crew chief. i was always interested in aircraft parts and the crew chief took that kindly. one of the rounds had the head stamp A21-A1-20mm. i just wandered if the gun had a specific name. thanks again, scott simon

  6. This is for Frank Chamberlain:
    Frank, I’ve been looking for Bert Diamond…we graduated Cadets at Vance AFB OK in 1952…sure would like to know his whereabouts , email,phone, address etc. Thanx My phone # is 703 569 0588

  7. Am looking for the basic air crew tech order for the b47, and also one for the kc135 of the 1960’s that i flew during the cold war and vietnam. does anyone remember the Palomares Spain incident 1966? mine was the lead tanker.

  8. So glad I stumbled across this site I happen to collect sac squadron patches and find the information and stories on the site invaluable as reference for unit patches and history.

      • You can find patches on ebay. Beware though there is massive trade in reproduction patches due to some squadron / wing patches being very rare / hard to find, those can command hundreds of dollars especially if they are in mint condition.

        Best Rob

  9. Bomb-Nav, 301st A&E at Lockbourne, ’61-’63…
    301st and 376th were there with B-47s and KC-97s were there too. Those tankers were soon replaced with KC-135s. The B-47s were impressive doing the full press with WA and ATO…….

  10. I HAVE SUBMITTED EARLIER HERE, HOWEVER, I THINK MY ARTICLE WAS LOST DUE TO A PROBLEM YOU HAD WHEN YOU LOST SEVERAL
    ENTRIES. MY ARTICLE WAS FROM THE TIME I WAS @ DYESS AND
    LT. OBENOFF LANDED W/ CANOPY MISSING(FROM THE BACK SEAT) AND THE ENGINE PROBLEM.I WAS AT POST DOCK RUN UP ON THE OTHER END OF THE RAMP.

  11. Where do I order wing patches???Please advise. –I was in 2nd bomb wing–96th bomb squadron. Thank you

    • Morris, I was in the 2nd BW, 96th Sq also, from 1959-1962. Did a little of everything, from servicing branch to asst CC. I think I was the youngest “7” level in the Wing…lotta good it did me lol. Even got to wing walk a U2 that happened to visit us without an invitation.

      • When were you at Hunter Morris ? I was there from Feb ’59 to Aug ’62.

  12. Morris, didn’t you go to Plattsburgh ? I think you and I were refueling at Brize when the pit caught fire. Jerry wooldridge

  13. This is for Bob Jagodzinski; thank you for getting Neil Ferrel and me in touch. I joined his b47 crew in 1963 at Lockbourne AF base right after pilot training,Vance AFB. He showed me what a wonderful aircraft the b47 was to fly, of course,,,, it was a Boeing. I watched from the back seat as Neil flew formation with wings overlapped 10-12 ft. He was the kind of a guy that if he said it could be done,it could be and would be done!!!! I never remember him being angry or panicky. He let me fly the airplane and never said much. He was the best pilot i ever flew with, personality and flying skill. I miss him a lot. scott simon

  14. Any of you fly boys know the name Clement Lee Currey. Homestead Air Forse Base. He retired out of Mac Dill AFB in 1962. Love to hear from you.

  15. Saw someone was looking for Lt. Col. Clement Lee Currey, Homestead AFB and retired out of MacDill in 1962. He’s my father. Please contact me. He passed on Veteran’s Day 2001. Would love to talk to you. Thanks. Cathy Currey Zimmerman. Cazimmerman@tampabay.rr.com

  16. I was assigned to 384th BW (Headquarters Sqdn) from 1959 – 1962, Little Rock AFB, Jacksonville, AR. Love to hear from anyone else during that period.

  17. From another service member, I have come across a small paper weight that was obtained from an estate sale. It is well stenciled as a sample of 755-t6 aluminum from the wing skin of a Boeing B-47. While examining the piece, there is scratches into the metal’s side the names “Col Sanborn” and “Col McCoy”. This may have been a souvenir from some ceremony or other gathering as there is no date on the piece. I am courious if there are any member if your organization that may remember officers by the names listed or information on the skin sample itself. Allow me to thank you all in advance and also thank you for your service to this great country.

    • Col. McCoy was commander of Pinecastle air force base in Pinecastle FL. which is south of Orlando. He was killed in a demonstration of a B-47 to a British dignitary and the Name of the base was then changed to McCoy Air Force Base in his honor. He was flying the aircraft which I was assistant crew chief. Joe Watford, My e-mail address joewatford@comcast.net

  18. i was talking to a boom operator recentley. he was talking about “whiffle” manouvers . a b52 hooked up to a 135 doing steep turns, even going past 90 degrees of bank—- while hooked up and passing gas[jp4] ha-ha….. I went on-line and find a lot of gas being passed both ways as to whether this is true or not.I was a pilot and flew both aircraft. I started out trying to fuel up behind a kc95, then along came the135, much nicer. I never got good at it and then the b47 phased out and i went to the kc135, both aircraft were great machines. But—-i never saw banking turns much past 30 degrees while hooked up and those were all climbing turns at the end of the track. The only picture i could find on the internet showed a b52 in an 80 degree turn hooked up to a 135. It sure looked real, but the b52 wings don’t have much upward arch for much bank and associated G FORCES to do such a manouver. Being as that i flew both the 135 and the b47 i had the opportunity to fly the b52 on the chrome dome 24 hour flights. Compared to the b47 or the kc135 the b52 is a very sluggish aircraft , we all know about the b52 thing a Fairchild??? low altitude–hot-dogging–steep bank. How many Gs/altitude does it take to recover from 80 degrees of bank in a b52.I loved the b47, some say it is the most beautiful bomber ever built and i got to fly it. It could be rolled and do the Immelman. SAC and the b47 kept the russians tail between it’s legs, then along came the b52, took over the job and the b47 faded away. The russians still kept their tail between their legs, and the b52 is still here!!!! A special thanks to the Crew Chiefs and men and ladies that kept those planes in the air. scott simon b47s kc135s c119s c124s

  19. This note is to correct a blunder i made in the above comment.. the tanker was theKC97, not a kc95[whatever that might be]. Hopefully i got this in time before somebody jumps on me. ha!!ha!! scott

  20. Scott, Saw you listed Old Shakey, where. I was a crew-chief on 47s at Hunter and Plattsburg, an Engineer on Shakey at Dover and Hickam.

    • Domer, beaucoup thanks for the quick response. One would expect nothing less from a SAC crew chief. Thank you for your service, I hope you are in good health. My time in Old Shakey was at Kelly Air Base just after Viet Nam where I flew 135s. Prior to 135s I flew the b47 at Lockbourne, Ohio. After jets it seemed strange to call out RPM and Manifold settings, so the engineer agreed to–Up,, Down, , or Faster, he was a great guy. That was in the c119, then I went to c124s, got a nose bleed climbing up to the cockpit it was so high, little bitty wings sticking out from that huge fuselage,,,some said it wasn’t supposed to fly, but it did. I seem to remember that the c124 was the only plane that could carry an assembled c130 propellor. my older brother worked on the electrics back in the 50s,along with b52s, c119s, said you had to drive stakes to tell if it was moving in flight. I kind of liked the c119, my first flight out of Kelly was a night ,low level, trail formation,equipment drop around Hondo Tx. A bird colonel sat me in the left seat and said “follow that airplane at this spacing” after he had it all set up. The engineer did all the rest. My dad told me to be nice to those old sergeants and they will take care of you, and they did. .Thanks scott

  21. I was at Lockourne from 1961-1964 and Lincoln from 1964-1965 – just enough time to log 1200 hrs in the B-47. I then went on to capture over 5000 hrs in the buf at Carswell (20th BS and 7th BW), Loring (69th BS and 42nd BW) and Barksdale (62nd BS and 2nd BW). I have a ton of patches (mostly SAC related) which I will send to whomever wants them. I would expect to be reinbursed postage.

    • Bob, i was at Lockbourne 63-65, Neil Ferrell was my AC . Bill Turner was the Nav. I liked the b47 very much , got a Kc135 assn. to Bergstrom AFB Tx. Neil went to Misawa Japan. Just caught up with him a year ago. My older brother worked on b52s c119s, and others. I would be interested in some of those patches, scott

    • Hi Bob, I would be more than happy to take a look at your patches and make you an offer, feel free to email me, east.robert@gmail.com . I specifically collect SAC period patches. I was thinking it would be great to add some unit patches to this site for reference.

      regards

      Rob

      • Did you ever get to see the patches that Bob had, I am looking for any thing about the 321st Bomb Wing at Pinecastle or later Macoy .I was there 1952-1956

    • Dear Bob, If you still have those patches, i am interested. As i mentioned in an earlier reply to you, i flew several different aircraft, several different bases. Another gentleman is also interested.. My email is simonandcompany@hotmail.com. I hope you are in good health and had a great holiday time. scott

    • Hi Bob;

      I am interested in any related patches you may have. I was stationed at Lockbourne AFB 1962 to end of 1965 376 OMS ( B-47s and 135’s 301 Air Refueling. Of course I will pay for any cost related to patched. Thanks Tony G

    • Hi, Michael Giddings here. My dad was at barksdale late 50s flying B-47s. I am very interested in your collection of SAC patches if it’s not too late. Of course I am more than happy to reimburse for postage. E-mail @ mgiddings1@cfl.rr.com or phone 407-748-7913. Looking forward to hearing from you.

    • I was there in 1962 or 63, would have to go through my old orders. TDY from Little Rock, Ark. Assigned to the Rec and Deck ,(recieve and deploy) unit. Saw the KC 135 that was always in the air land at the base. Dont remember which general was on board at the time.

    • I did several TDY’s at Greenham Common 1960-64. Home base was Lockbourne AFB (301st Orgn. Maint. Squadron (SAC). Spent most of my time in the alert cage or taking the train into London. I was never happy about the dense fog crossing the runways at shift change. Four years as 43515E Acft Mech Jet 0/2 Eng. Went to B-52 school At Chanute. But was assigned to B-47’s. Spent too many hours riding the crew chief seat.

  22. Chuck, I was at Hunter from 53 until spring of 59. 20th Bomb Sqdn and then 2nd OMS. Left in June for Plattsburgh, 380th OMS until June 64. Then retired at full pay in MAC. Engineer on C-124’s and C-141’s until 1973.

    • Thanks for the response Domer…I was in the 2nd OMS also. I got there in Feb ’59. There was a MSGT Clark that ran the show then. Got transferrred to the flight line as asst. c/c in the 96th BS. Discharged in Aug ’62.

  23. My name is Jack Dickerson. I was an assistant crew chief on the B-47 from 1961 till May 1965. I was on flying status and made an extra $55.00 per month for flying and was very glad to get it. I’m 71 yrs old now and some of my greatest memories are from my years at Lockbourne AFB, 301st OMS. I’ve never been able to find any of my fellow airmen that I served with so if anyone recognizes my name please email me. jjbdickerson@hotmail.com. Some good reading on here, keep it up.

  24. I was at Dyess AFB. 1959-63 341st FMS later on 96th. E-3 with 38 months in grade due no promo. Had learned to fly in HS, worked for EAL 63-87 L-1049, CV-440, DC-9, B-727, A-300, L-1011. singapore Airlines, Air Mauritius A-340 Boeing In Asia . Now at the FAA, National Sim Program. Check airman and instructor fo years n years. I was at Dyess when Obernoff landed WO Canopy in a hot seat.

    love to hear from anyone from there. Ladunwoody@gmail.com
    Cheers

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